(On January 18, Mother received the Dalai Lama. It should be

noted that Mother had long ago admitted a number of Tibetan

refugees to the Ashram and Auroville.)

Anything to say?

I'd be curious to know what you felt with the Dalai Lama?
A truly benevolent man. Buddhist benevolence, you know, and he practices it marvelously.


Very benevolent - he's very benevolent.

I was told something (I don't know if it's true), he is reported to have said, "Sri Aurobindo and the Mother are the most important personalities in the world today" - I don't know if it's true.

He seems to have been pleased with his visit. He was very happy to see the school and the children.


What about Tibet, did you see anything - do you see anything for that country?

I told him Tibet would become independent again. He asked me when. I said, "I don't know." [[Mother replied, "All depends on the world's receptivity to the supramental consciousness." We publish in the Addendum an account of the Dalai Lama's questions and Mother's answers. ]]

Sri Aurobindo's idea was an independent Tibet within a sort of great federation with India. But when will that happen? I don't know.


He gave me this (Mother shows a Tibetan Buddha in brass). It's a Buddha. Is there something written there [under the statue]?

Yes, Mother, there are some inscriptions.

I think it's Tibetan.

Very nice.


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(Account of the Dalai Lama's visit. The Dalai Lama's questions

were put to Mother by Kireet, the Registrar of the Centre of

Education, who in turn conveyed Mother's answers back to the Dalai Lama.)

(original English)

(Dalai Lama:) It is my dream to have the perfect economicdevelopment of Tibet, the perfect organization, the efficiency

that we find in Communism, but all this based upon, founded

upon the Buddhistic qualities of Compassion and Love, so that

the people in power do not degenerate into corruption. What is

Mother's view of this dream, and whether such a thing will be

realized in Tibet?

It is not a dream. It will naturally be. But the time it will take, I do not know. This is something like what Sri Aurobindo has said about the Supramental.

Truth, Love, Compassion will give a basis to the new creation. It is not birth but the value of men that should give the right to authority.

If the teaching of Sri Aurobindo can spread over the world, and if there is the full manifestation of the Supramental, then the Supramental will be the power of the liberation of Tibet.


It is bound to come, it will come; but if it goes as it is going now, it will take hundreds of years. But if the Supramental is manifested, it may come quick. Quick does not mean ten or twenty years - that would be almost miraculous.

(Kireet:) But the Supramental is now working very powerfully.
It is, it is working. It will be manifested with enough power when the right people have the authority.

For the moment, it seems that the opposition, the falsehood attacks with full power before dying. Never, never have men lied as much as they are doing now. It seems the old habit comes spontaneously. But it must be broken.

We are at a very ... what we could call an unpleasant moment of the history of the earth. It is interesting because the action is very powerful, but I can't call it pleasant.

But I have told you that already; I wrote it. [[Message of November 26, 1972: "Before dying, falsehood rises in full swing. Still people understand only the lesson of catastrophe. Will it have to come before they open their eyes to the truth? I ask an effort from all so that it has not to be. It is only the Truth that can save us; truth in words, truth in action, truth in will, truth in feelings. It is a choice between serving the Truth or being destroyed." ]]

(Kireet:) Yes, Mother. The Mother has given the message.
(Dalai Lama:) As for myself, I have no desire to continue inpower in the Government. For I -feel that the Government

involves so much of conflicts of parties, and the necessity of

taking sides with one party against the other....

One can govern without taking sides. That is the mistake of all the governments; they reduce their capacity tremendously.

But beyond the mind, there is a higher and deeper consciousness - they would find a Consciousness in which one can make use of all the capacities. It is a question of the consciousness being broad enough, so that each capacity can be put in its place in order to make a general harmony.

(Dalai Lama:) There is good will, there is sincerity among people all over the world, but the number of such people is not

large. Will they be able to have an effect to change the condi

tions of the world?


It is bound to change; it is bound to change. Only, if the people are sincere it will shorten the time; it will go faster if the people are sincere.

The first and indispensable step is to stop all falsehood. Falsehood is all that contradicts in us the Presence of the Divine.


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